Thursday, October 29, 2009

pp. 63 - 84


How has the relationship between Eliezer and his father changed during their time at Auschwitz? What has each come to represent to the other?

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  1. Throughout the time Elie and his father stayed at Auschwitz they’re relationship changed. Before they were brought into camp Elie admired his dad and looked up to him as a role model. When they arrived at Auschwitz the two were all that each other had. Elie thought that he had to stay alive not for his own sake, but for his dads. He saw it as unfair if he was to give up on life and die, because then he would be leaving his dad with nothing to live for.

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  2. With arrival at the camp, Eliezer looked up to his father. Shortly after they got there, they only had each other, They were each others reason to live. Elie loved his father and almost saw the emotion as a burden in the "every man for himself" environment. He couldn't just die and leave his father alone, he was his only motivation.

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  3. Elie and his father were really close, relying on each other in many circumstances. Elie felt the need to keep pushing on and doing his best no matter what, so that his father would be proud, but more importantly inspired to not give up. Slowly, they realized that their relationship was all they had and that if one died, it would be too devastating to keep moving on. To his father, Elie was his joy, his life and his son. And to Elie, his father was his strength, foundation and safety. But as they continued living in the conditions they were in, Elie knew his father was weakening. He still loved him, but had his own life to protect as well.

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  4. When they got to the new camp his father got very sick! He started not caring about going to get up and go to work. All he wanted his son to do was help him get up to go to the bathroom and get him water. there relationship changed becuase his dad always wanted him to stay strong but now he wasnt. The only reason Elie stayed alive for his dad and now that his dad was giving up he felt like he stayed alive for nothing.

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  5. Elie and his father were really close, they would always stand side by side and believe in each other and trying to stay alive. elie would always help his father when he was weak or felt sick they knew it was them against the whole german soldier. The german soldier would always try to separte them but they are a family and will and love and be with each other

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  6. Eliezer and his father’s relationship was strictly survival. Elie was there to help his father survive but they both relied on each other emotionally to stay alive.

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  7. The relationship between them remained the same, but how they acted didn't. Instead of a child needing support from his father, his father needed Elie to help support him and pick up his burden. However, they were both emotionally connected that it didn't matter and they wanted to try to survive the camp together.

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  8. I think their relationship changed a lot because the camp had worn him down and he was depressed without his wife and didn’t know how to handle it all.

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  9. In a way I feel as if they became closer in a mental state because even without saying words, by just looking at one another their facial expressions said enough. But, also they did move apart because they were separated physically and both in different areas.

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  10. They were all they had. At the same time, it grew stroger but they knew it was just survival

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  11. I feel like there relationship changed because the book started off with Ellie being young and he wanted to be around his dad all the time and after a few chapters Ellie gets older and he becomes more like a man then a little boy. When his father gets sick Ellie takes the role of a protector and more fatherly and takes care of his father until the end.

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  12. I think that their relationship changed because when Elie was young, he wanted to be around his father all the time. But later on in the book, Elie gets older and becomes more of a man then a young boy. After Elie's father gets ill, Elie takes the role of being protective and tries to do whatever he can to take care of his father till the end.

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  13. 47-63 At the Auschwitz concentration camp Elie and his father had on and off relationships. Elie would be tired of baby sitting and watching out for his father. Elie would have to suffer through more because his father was dragging Elie with him. Elie would be mad at his father for no knowing how to prevent him from being beat. But in the end both of them represented staying alive. Elie and his father would stay alive because they were both the only reason why they wanted to live. Elie and hid father loved each other. They were both each other’s hope.

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  14. 9. In time at the camp Elie and his father saw each other as equals, they saw each other as the only reason to be alive the only reason they wanted to exist. The camp was something that brought them closer where they could only rely on each other his father was the only person you can truly love. When Elie lost his father I think him staying alive was for his father, because in a way when he was freed so was his father.

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  15. In the beginning Elie looked up to his dad. They were really close. Their relationship changed because Elies father got sick and could not do his work. And Elie had to stay strong and take care for his father and do his and his dads work. So they became even closer.

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  16. 9. At the begining they are very close and rely eachother,and then Elie's father can't work hard,Elie had to work harder,they supprt each other alive,whatever they meet,they still very close.Theyneed eachother,though Elie very tired and weak.

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  17. Elie used to idol his father and looked up to him but during his time in Auschwitz he started little by little hate his father for being weak. Sometimes Ellie had to help his father. One time Ellie had to teach his father how to match which changed them in that Ellie acted liked the father teaching his son. After all a while is changed from Ellie's father taking care of him to Ellie taking car of his father so that he could get past selection and continue living.

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  18. elie used to look up to his father but while they were there elies father started looking up to him because elie was always keeping him out of trouble and takeing care of him.

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  19. Elie and his father used to be very close, but being in the camp changed that. They were with each other every minute of every day, and being around someone that much can change your opinion of them, even if it is your own father. When his father got sick, he had to work for the both of them to feed him which made him angry. Elie saw his father as a burden (even though he loved him), and his father saw him as the only thing keeping him alive, which wasn't healthy for either of them.

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  20. The relationship between Elie ad his father completely changed throughout the book, Elie started to get sick of his fathers and in the back of his mind he wanted his father to leave him alone so he doesn’t have to take care of an old man only holding him back, and Elie’s father needed more from his son the farther he get into the book to the point where he had to rely on him to help him eat.

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  21. their relationship has gotten gradually worse, because Elie has come to realize that his father is becoming his weakness, because he's slowing him down and if he keeps slowing him down then he won't do as good in the selections.

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  22. At the begining of the time eliser didnt wanted to be seperated from his father but than lack of living supplies and hard time made them a little distance of feeling and a little selfies. But ellie still cared about his father and also gave him his half ration of bread when he was ill. but still did all he could when other told him it was waste of food and fathers food was the opportunity to have double bread.

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  23. Before Auschwitz Elise and his Father did not have to rely on each other and did their own thing, also they really didn't have a relationship. But in Auschwitz they have to rely on each other just to survive the camp. They represent there each others bodyguard.

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  24. the relationship between elie and his father changed drastically yet it did not change at all it changed drastically because instead of thinking about his father elie was thinking about himself and his own survival but in the end elie was closer to his father then ever.

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  25. Their relationship has become better, because elie has become to relise his father will not make it so he isnt in denial anymore.

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  26. Elie and his father were probably really close during their time in Auschwitz because they were each others only family left alive. Each has come to represent to the other their only family member left alive.

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  27. 7. In the beginning (first month in the camp) Elie tried as much as he could to stay with his father. There were a lot of things that could separate them, like selection, distribution into groups and death. However they were lucky and stayed together for a long time. Nevertheless nothing continues forever, later they were separated into different groups. As that happens Elie’s father was very tired, he was not very strong and also he could not march. In other words work in camp left print on him. Elie become little bit angry on his father-Why he is not ready for the problems in our life? At the end of the story so much painful things happened with our characters. Elie’s father was ill and he could not work. Elie tried to care after his father but there was not enough food for even him (he gave his half of bread to his father).Other people told him that he must leave his father and even eat his ration of food. For Elie father at that moment was something that made his life harder. Elie understood that, however that was his father-person that fed raised him and he continued to care after him until his father died.

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  30. it seems as though they got closer in the beginning but towards the end they got father apart. Elie loved his father but he could not be held back by him towards the end. In conclusion they got closer than separated slowly but surely

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  31. Throughout the book, Elie and his father’s relationship shifted back and forth. In the beginning, Elie worked to keep his father going and to stay with his father all the time. In time, Elies father focused to keep Elie strong and to keep going instead of himself, over more time Elie found his father as sometimes as a burden and was disappointed in his dad but he still loved him.

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  32. Throughout their experience at the camp, Elie and his father's relationship has strengthened greatly. Instead of a father taking care of their kid, it flips and ends up a kid taking care of his father. Elie's father depends on him very much and wouldn't survive without Elie if it came down to it. Although Elie feels his father is possibly holding him back because he knows that in these camps it's every man for himself. He knows he cannot and will not leave his father for dead though. He continues to help his father and try to help as much as he can to survive.

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  33. At the beginning of the book we see that Elie looks up at his father as a role model. When they had entered the camp Elie then knew that his father was all he had left. Going further into the book we start to see the relationship change. Elie wanted to be with his father constantly, but then he soon started to realize that maybe it would be best to let his father go and try to fix things for himself. Even though he was thinking these selfish thoughts, he never doubted himself that he didnt love his father.

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  34. I think that Elie and his father had grown closer at Auschwitz because they had both tried to stay alive for each other. They had become the reason to live for one another because both had not wanted to die and leave the other to suffer alone. As time went on, Elie and his father had grown closer since they were the only piece of family they had left since being separated from the girls of the family. Elie had tried his best to always stay with his father and keep him company whereas his father had tried his very best to stay alive and in good shape for his son so that he would not be killed and leave Elie alone.

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  35. : Elie used to look up to his father, and in the camp his father was all he had. Elie really tried to look after his father, and try to help him by giving him extra food and doing some of his work. He wanted to keep his dad alive, but he knew that he was truly alone and his father was just dragging him down.

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  36. Their relationship did change because when they got to Auschwitz Elie loved his father a lot but as time passed Elie didn't even react when a SS guard was beating up his father when he said he would tried to kill that SS guard for hurting his father. The thought it would be better if he died but yet that show the relationship of them when Elie father was dieing Elie took care of him and stayed with him to the end before they took him away.

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  37. The relationship changed throughout the story because in the beginning they had a really strong relationship and Elie looked up to his dad a lot and believed he could make it out alive with his dad but later on it was over for him because his dad ended up being sick and he learned that he was on his own after that.

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  38. The relationship between Elise and his father changed a lot. They have been together threw a lot. Elis father always had his back and made sure he was always getting a little more than him. Elise had to grow up and do a lot of things other 16 year old kids would do. At the start of the book his father was a little distant to him, but as the book went on they realized they were all they had so they took more care of each other.

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  39. The relationship between Ellie and has really changed over time. In the beginning of the book Night when Ellie and his father arrived at the concentration camp , Ellie wouldn't bare to be without his father since he was pretty much the only relative he had at the Concentration camp and would try to remain together under any circumstances such as selection or sending them off to gas chambers. Towards the end of the book Ellie begins to be annoyed by his father, Ellie's father had become so weak at the end that it became a burden for Ellie to always be looking out for his father such as teaching him how to march and to the point where Ellie had to feed his own father giving him his ration of soup and bread.

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  40. I honestly don’t think their relationship deep down changed significantly, I think they were still the same people at the end as they were at the beginning, the only reason their attitudes about everything was because of the amount of stress and hard work they were put under, Elie seemed to have loved his father more towards the beginning but I don’t think that’s the case because Elie was still very hurt and sad when he heard of his father being beaten and especially passing away.

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  41. I honestly don’t think their relationship deep down changed significantly, I think they were still the same people at the end as they were at the beginning, the only reason their attitudes about everything was because of the amount of stress and hard work they were put under, Elie seemed to have loved his father more towards the beginning but I don’t think that’s the case because Elie was still very hurt and sad when he heard of his father being beaten and especially passing away.

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  42. • Personally I think that they grew to be more close to each other throughout the book especially by the end of the book Elie was doing everything he could to keep his father alive. Where as in the beginning of the book I think that their relationship was kind of distant. The impact of the camp brought them closer because family was the only good thing they had at camp and at any second they could never see family again.

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  43. they grew closer together. like at the beginning of the book Elie was always with his father when they got off the train that arrived at the concentration camp. and towards the end when his father was dying he gave him more of his own food and took care of him.

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  44. Elie and his father’s relationship has changed because, as they are at the camp they stay with each other as long as they can and the try help each other as long as they can until eventually all that’s left of them is skin and bones and what represents them is just love for each other and the what seems to be an eternal struggle to live and hold on.

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  45. The relationship between Eliezer and his father remained the same, but their roles and how they acted changed after arriving at Auschwitz. From being a child needing his father’s help, he changed to a man that needed to survive and protect his father, but luckily their relationship didn’t change so it didn’t matter, they both cared for each other.

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  46. I believe they have come to help one another throughout the camp. I think that they worked more as a team during the camp than ever. Elie was dependent on his father and vice versa. They would get items and things for one another when needed; sometimes they would share their rations with one another. To the other they both represent a team. In their minds they are going through it together and it always helps to have someone you know well in the same situation so you share the worry and calm each other.

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  47. Throught the story, in the begging Elie's father was always busy with the council, making sure the people were happy in his twon. B ut as the germans come his father is home trying to satisfy the needs of his family and the people at the same time. But as the ghettos get smaller, he is now worried about health and his family's safety. Until the march and the arrival to Auschwitz. Then that's when Elie and his father receive a real relationship. They live for each other now. They have never been so close together, and yet still so far fro one another. They keep each other safe. and work together to ensure one another survival. Like when they were getting sent to their deaths at the end of the story. Eating snow of backs. Elie keeping his father from falling into eternal sleep i the icy cold conditions.

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  48. The relationship between Ellie and his father had changed over time. In the beginning, his father was well respect by him and he would follow his father's command. In addition, they didn't want to be separated, they would look after each others and could stay alive for each other . As they stayed at the concentration camp ,as his father was growing weaker and starting to give up because of his physical weakness and old age , Ellie sometimes thought of his father was some kind of burdensome and he would argue with him. Furthermore, he also referred his father as his weakness point for many reasons. Sometimes, he even thought that his life would be easier without his father. However, after all they still need and love each other and Elie would also take care of his father .

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  49. For Elie his father is just a blank figure. His father is weak to him, but in retrospect he still loves his father but he respects him as a fatherly figure. For his father I think that he thinks that his son has turned into a well rounded young man and that he doesnt need his fathers help anymore.

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  50. In The beginning of the long road they had to overcome, Eliezer and His Father were very close together, never separated, Always obeyed his father’s commands, And respected him. They Were going to fight to stay alive. As time went on Eliezer’s father started to become very weak, and Eliezer Felt like his dad was a big burden, I’m pretty sure his father knew that he was a burden as well.

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  51. The longer they were locked up in Auschwitz, the more vulnerable Elie's father had become. Age was tearing away at Elie's father faster than either of them would've hoped for. At first before they got to Auschwitz Elie would have done anything to protect his father, and attack anyone who would've hurt his dad. Except when they got to Auschwitz, and several people attacked his dad numerous times, Elie never did anything. He was struck with the selfish fear of his own safety. At the end of his fathers life Elie was convinced to eat his fathers rations along with his own. In conclusion, their relationship has slowly drifted apart and become more distant than it was back at home. To Elie it felt like his father was just a responsibility hanging over his shoulders that he had to deal with.

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  53. i think him and his fathers relationship changed. they became really distant when they entered the camp rather then when they were not in the camp .

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  54. During the time at Auschwitz, Elie and his dad became closer to each other. They became each other's reasons to live in the hard condition. They strengthened each other . They stick together and made each other keep hope and faith. But when they marched, he might have thought his dad is burden he needed to carry.

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  55. over time Elizer began to see his father as weak and began to have thoughts about abandoning him and leaving him to die then he just watched his father die and did nothing

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  56. When Elie and his father first came to Auschwitz they weren't as close as they are further in the book. When they were both at camp they really cared for each other. Elie brought bread for is father, and his father was with him the whole time and helped him. They really loved each other and cared. They weren't that close before entering the camp.And the relationship between them changed over time but at the end they still stayed together.

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  57. In their time at Aushwitz, Elies relationship to his father grew to a great extent. The only people they had were each other. I think his father began to respect him for how much he tried to keep the will to live. Elie at times thought of his father as weak, but really he was just trying to stay alive as best as he could.

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  58. The time in aushwiz, broke and also strengthen their relationship it was their only comfort they knew in aushwiz family was the only thing they were sure of and they put all their hopes and fears into it. their relationship strengthened and when it broke what he had left was gone every thing they had stayed alive for. to each other family was their only hope but also the hardest thing to keep together, their weakness.

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  59. Before Elie and his father came to Auschwitz Elie looked up to his dad as a role model and respected him. when they arrived at Auschwitz all they had was each other. Elie had to stay strong not for himself but for his father. Elie's relationship with his father changed a lot since they came to the camp. But no matter what they cared for each other.

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  60. they became closer because they where family and they needed to work in team so both of them did not get taken (killed) by the ss in a selection so they tryed to take care from one of the other so they can survive and try and have a good future once released from the camps.

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  61. During their time at the concentration camps Elie and his father had many close calls both getting weaker every day and because of this they become even more attached to each other. And as they got closer to each other they began to realize that without the other they would probably lose the will to live and die soon after the other.

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  62. During their time in Auschwitz, Elie and his father grew closer than ever before. Because they had lost everything but each other, each of them became the other's everything.

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  63. When they were in Auschwitz, Elie was taking care of his father, looking out for him, and protecting him. Elie was doing the dad work and his father was doing the kid work. His father was older and could hardly handle what was going on. So Elie had to step up and be a man.

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  64. While Elie and his father were at Auschwitz Elie took care of his father and made sure his father was always in his sight. Elie made sure his father was safe and not sick, if his father did become sick Elie would be there so that his father could get extra support to keep living.

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  65. The relationship between Elie and his father was stronger than ever, meaning they grew closer together. They both looked out for each other even more than before. Elie and his father did not want to be separated from each other because that's all they had left, each other. Both of them helped each other even more. Elie did not want to die because of his father, he had to stay alive to able to be there she his father needed him. Elie and his father knew that all they had left was each other and that's why their relationship got stronger.

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  66. At the beginning at the camp elie didnt want to be sperated from his family but then he did so it was just him and his dad and so he was the only thing he had and so they got closer to each other so they woked hard so they wouldn't die andso they would have each other and after a while in the camp his dad got weaker and weaker in the camp from getting old and sick so after him taking care of him it was time for him to take care of his dad this time and so that would change the relationship with them. and so in the end they both need each other atfer all.

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  67. the longer they were there the weaker Elizer saw his father to be like when he was getting beaten by the guy when he was marching and got hit every time he made a wrong move

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  68. When Elie and his father first arrived Elie Looked up to his father, but Slowly Elie became the one who Was taking care of his father

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  69. When ellie and his farther first came to Auschwitz they were loving of eachother and wanted eachother by their sides. But as the time went on they had slowly become annoyances to the other and that they were only there to cause problems. But as time went on Ellie started to take care of his dad instead of the other way around. He had to feed his dad and get medicine for his dad.

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  70. in the beginning of the book elie clung to his father as a role model but as the book progressed he viewed him as a weaker individual. however their endeavors made them stronger and more concerned for one another. as the book progressed elie became more of a life line for his father and mentally I felt elie's father became more dependent on his sons abilities.

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